95 - Fail 98 - hit Vista - Fail 7 - hit 8 -Fail 10 - Trend says, it will be a hit.
Not really. Every other Rev was good, right? Win9 was destined to be a good OS, but they skipped it, and are jumping to a crappy even numbered release.
1 Year FREE!!! Yayyyy! -wait.... do I have to pay for it after a year to keep using it. -FU! this is not free then? is a BAIT and SWITCH offer. Microsoft again pushing users towards Linux.
ARG. So tired of people misusing the term "Bait and Switch"...
From Microsoft
"Terry Myerson just announced on stage that, for the first year after Windows 10 launches, any device running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows Phone 8.1 will be able to upgrade to the latest version of MIcrosoft's OS .. for free."
So, if you upgrade the first year that Windows 10 is offered, it will be free for life. The way Ben wrote it sounds like it will only be free for a year, which is false, it will be free forever.
Need to change the description from "Microsoft just announced today that they will be offering a year of the new Windows 10" to " Microsoft just announced that if you update to Windows 10 the first year, it will be free for life"
But what lays ahead after the "free upgrade" peroid of one year? Maybe Microsoft will decide to charge you a subscription fee to receive updates for the "free upgrade" Windows 10 operating system.
The deal is you have one year to upgrade after which the deal expires and MS will charge if you want to upgrade at that point.
The question is since you are not paying for the new operating system, is it not a possibility that MS will charge for updates to Windows 10 later on? After all, they will be charging for Windows 10 after the free one year period so they do plan to generate $$ from the product eventually...
1. They have never charged for updates before. The backlash would be tremendous, MS know this.
2. MS makes money on people who will upgrade to 7 or 8 now knowing they will get 10 for free in the future
3. MS saves money by getting people off old platforms reducing the cost of supporting the old platforms and allowing them to EOF sooner
3. The free upgrade creates customer loyalty and expands the MS platform. With MS 10 expanding its presence in tablets and phones they expect people to pay for the platform in those areas so it can mirror their PC
4. MS has a full disclosure page for the free upgrade. Take the time to read it before posting what you "think might possibly I am worried with no facts" could happen.
I can understand the affection with XP. I love XP too. ...
Believe it or not, I still have a DOS machine (4.8 MHz, not GHz)!, a winows 3.1 mchine, a windows 95, 98, ME, 2000Pro, XP, and windows 7 Ultimate 64 machines (which replaced Vista Ultimate 64).
The XP and the 7 machines are used on a daily basis.
XP remains my favorite (in terms of the user interface). ...
I am not installing anything over XP, or over 7 ...
I probably will get windows 10 on a new machine sometime like 5 or more years down the road, hoping by then that Microsoft has fixed most of its bugs!
But we don't know what other operating systems will be available by then, or by who.
I'm open to the idea of using Chrome OS by then, if I could ever trust Google.
Most of us have spoken too soon.
It's true, free upgrade to windows 10 from Windows 7, 8.1, and windows phone 8.1, with free updated for the life cycle of the product.
You must take this upgrade offer within the first year of windows 10 launch (you can start registering now).
Certain restrictions apply, so you need to read the details.
See this page, and follow other links on it as well: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/
Dear Mr. Windows 10 Know It All, Show me the link and I will.
Talk about a know it all. You are admitting you have read zero on the subject but have an answer to every point. Good luck with that.
FYI - Microsoft originally gave away MS Word and Excel when you bought MS Dos. They did it to gain market share. It allowed them to shoot past Lotus and Wordstar which dominated the market at the time. But you knew that right.
Also, quote from MS - try searching if you want a link
This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device, at no cost. .
There's an old saying that goes there is no such thing as free lunch. MS has figured out a way to monetize their OS, actually they have no choice but to do it for their shareholders.
You may get something of value to you for free out of this but don't think it won't cost you in the long run unless Google manages to put more of a scare into MS than they already have. Either company is obviously in it to make money off of you one way or the other.
There's an old saying that goes there is no such thing as free lunch. MS has figured out a way to monetize their OS, actually they have no choice but to do it for their shareholders. You may get something of value to you for free out of this but don't think it won't cost you in the long run unless Google manages to put more of a scare into MS than they already have. Either company is obviously in it to make money off of you one way or the other.
Next you''ll tell me Ben's is a for profit company and all the free deals we see are paid for by ad revenue so its not actually free because its just added into the price of the product.
I guess what I am saying is, yeah, we know its not "free", it just doesn't require up front cash and its not a subscription service (at this time) and they are offering lifetime support (lifetime = about 6 years for an OS from MS).
I plan to just setup a dual-boot (actually, a triple-boot, with Win 7 Home Premium, and Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell), on one of my desktops. That way I can try it out with no real commitment, and go back to the older stuff anytime.
Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell works great for me, it's stable enough (though not perfect), and offers a few minor advantages over 7. And works pretty well on laptops.
Windows 7 Home Premium is still "my standard OS" in our house, is compatible with all the work stuff I do at a large corporation (which requires Office 2010), and has Windows Media Center built in, which we use all the time for scheduled recordings, on 3 different desktops, using a HD Home Run Dual Tuner unit (a great combo).
MS will be supporting Win 7 and Win 8 for a few more years yet, so I'll worry about what to do next when we get to 2020.
Humorous that some people can only "understand" that Windows 10 is free for a year means that they will have to pay every year thereafter. Biggest problem with our society = limited understand / knowledge and a growing inability to rationally think. The downside of our electronic frontier.
I plan to just setup a dual-boot (actually, a triple-boot, with Win 7 Home Premium, and Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell), on one of my desktops. That way I can try it out with no real commitment, and go back to the older stuff anytime. Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell works great for me, it's stable enough (though not perfect), and offers a few minor advantages over 7. And works pretty well on laptops. Windows 7 Home Premium is still "my standard OS" in our house, is compatible with all the work stuff I do at a large corporation (which requires Office 2010), and has Windows Media Center built in, which we use all the time for scheduled recordings, on 3 different desktops, using a HD Home Run Dual Tuner unit (a great combo). MS will be supporting Win 7 and Win 8 for a few more years yet, so I'll worry about what to do next when we get to 2020.
I wonder if I mirror my windows 7 onto a new hard drive and then upgrade one of the drives to windows 10 if both copies will still function with valid activation?
Humorous that some people can only "understand" that Windows 10 is free for a year means that they will have to pay every year thereafter. Biggest problem with our society = limited understand / knowledge and a growing inability to rationally think. The downside of our electronic frontier.
MS is a publically traded company so they need to make the same revenue or more every year or their stock price will plumit. Maybe they give us the basic OS but charge subscription fees only for extras such as Office products, media center, ....etc.
Consider this, most people don't pay $100 for a seat of Windows like I do (build my own PC's). Most people buy a PC from a store with Windows already installed which the manufacture payed a tiny fraction of the $100 retail price, lets guess maybe $15. So if MS can squeeze $10 a year out of their AVERAGE customer in the long run the math makes sense.
Sounds like desperation of Micro$oft's part to win back customers, they know there will be a kms fix for Win 10 and there is nothing they can do to stop that. I suggest Micro$oft release Win 10 full version for $9.99, I think more people would buy it then try to steal it. Apple doesn't use forced activation of there products and sales are good for them.
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Not really. Every other Rev was good, right? Win9 was destined to be a good OS, but they skipped it, and are jumping to a crappy even numbered release.
ARG. So tired of people misusing the term "Bait and Switch"...
"Terry Myerson just announced on stage that, for the first year after Windows 10 launches, any device running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows Phone 8.1 will be able to upgrade to the latest version of MIcrosoft's OS .. for free."
So, if you upgrade the first year that Windows 10 is offered, it will be free for life. The way Ben wrote it sounds like it will only be free for a year, which is false, it will be free forever.
Need to change the description from "Microsoft just announced today that they will be offering a year of the new Windows 10" to " Microsoft just announced that if you update to Windows 10 the first year, it will be free for life"
The deal is you have one year to upgrade after which the deal expires and MS will charge if you want to upgrade at that point.
1. They have never charged for updates before. The backlash would be tremendous, MS know this.
2. MS makes money on people who will upgrade to 7 or 8 now knowing they will get 10 for free in the future
3. MS saves money by getting people off old platforms reducing the cost of supporting the old platforms and allowing them to EOF sooner
3. The free upgrade creates customer loyalty and expands the MS platform. With MS 10 expanding its presence in tablets and phones they expect people to pay for the platform in those areas so it can mirror their PC
4. MS has a full disclosure page for the free upgrade. Take the time to read it before posting what you "think might possibly I am worried with no facts" could happen.
Double-sigh. O/S-2 -- now THAT was an op system. I spent all night downloading it over a modem onto 16 HD floppy discs.
Believe it or not, I still have a DOS machine (4.8 MHz, not GHz)!, a winows 3.1 mchine, a windows 95, 98, ME, 2000Pro, XP, and windows 7 Ultimate 64 machines (which replaced Vista Ultimate 64).
The XP and the 7 machines are used on a daily basis.
XP remains my favorite (in terms of the user interface). ...
I am not installing anything over XP, or over 7 ...
I probably will get windows 10 on a new machine sometime like 5 or more years down the road, hoping by then that Microsoft has fixed most of its bugs!
But we don't know what other operating systems will be available by then, or by who.
I'm open to the idea of using Chrome OS by then, if I could ever trust Google.
It's true, free upgrade to windows 10 from Windows 7, 8.1, and windows phone 8.1, with free updated for the life cycle of the product.
You must take this upgrade offer within the first year of windows 10 launch (you can start registering now).
Certain restrictions apply, so you need to read the details.
See this page, and follow other links on it as well:
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/
Talk about a know it all. You are admitting you have read zero on the subject but have an answer to every point. Good luck with that.
FYI - Microsoft originally gave away MS Word and Excel when you bought MS Dos. They did it to gain market share. It allowed them to shoot past Lotus and Wordstar which dominated the market at the time. But you knew that right.
Also, quote from MS - try searching if you want a link
You may get something of value to you for free out of this but don't think it won't cost you in the long run unless Google manages to put more of a scare into MS than they already have. Either company is obviously in it to make money off of you one way or the other.
Next you''ll tell me Ben's is a for profit company and all the free deals we see are paid for by ad revenue so its not actually free because its just added into the price of the product.
I guess what I am saying is, yeah, we know its not "free", it just doesn't require up front cash and its not a subscription service (at this time) and they are offering lifetime support (lifetime = about 6 years for an OS from MS).
Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell works great for me, it's stable enough (though not perfect), and offers a few minor advantages over 7. And works pretty well on laptops.
Windows 7 Home Premium is still "my standard OS" in our house, is compatible with all the work stuff I do at a large corporation (which requires Office 2010), and has Windows Media Center built in, which we use all the time for scheduled recordings, on 3 different desktops, using a HD Home Run Dual Tuner unit (a great combo).
MS will be supporting Win 7 and Win 8 for a few more years yet, so I'll worry about what to do next when we get to 2020.
Linux? Yeah if you like bloatware.
I wonder if I mirror my windows 7 onto a new hard drive and then upgrade one of the drives to windows 10 if both copies will still function with valid activation?
Maybe, maybe not.
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/
http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-windows-10-free-lifetime-device-after-initial-upgrade-no-yearly-fee-upgraders
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/microsoft-not-yet-ready-describe-what-supported-lifetime-device-means-windows-10
MS is a publically traded company so they need to make the same revenue or more every year or their stock price will plumit. Maybe they give us the basic OS but charge subscription fees only for extras such as Office products, media center, ....etc.
Consider this, most people don't pay $100 for a seat of Windows like I do (build my own PC's). Most people buy a PC from a store with Windows already installed which the manufacture payed a tiny fraction of the $100 retail price, lets guess maybe $15. So if MS can squeeze $10 a year out of their AVERAGE customer in the long run the math makes sense.
Thank you!