Watch the news.... There's a reason they are down... - barryk
Talking about the r410a phasedown? Don't let that stop you, 410a will still be available for many years and isn't flammable like the inferior replacements they're foisting on us due to climate hysteria. And yes, I am a certified HVAC tech.
R410a = $$$$$$$$ if / when you need a recharge. I wouldn't avoid a new system just because it contains a newer type of refrigerant. As for climate hysteria... Can't deny we have issues.
R410a = $$$$$$$$ if / when you need a recharge. I wouldn't avoid a new system just because it contains a newer type of refrigerant. As for climate hysteria... Can't deny we have issues. - barryk
The vast majority of home HVAC uses it and supplies of it aren't going to stop being made, just new equipment using it. The expense shouldn't rise much as long as it's being produced sufficient to meet demand.
Ironically the last time my AC was replaced, I got one of the last models that used R22, and a spare tank of it. THAT is appreciating in value because R22 production was banned a few years back, so everyone else has to find reclaimed sources. Years in the future when production of new R410A is banned, it is likely to be the same situation, they'll reclaim it, and finally it will go up in price a lot but by then, what you buy today will have probably worn out already and need replaced again.
R410a = $$$$$$$$ if / when you need a recharge. I wouldn't avoid a new system just because it contains a newer type of refrigerant. As for climate hysteria... Can't deny we have issues. - barryk
Pretty easy to deny there are climate issues if you consider actual science instead of CNN. There are tens of thousands of serious scientists who dispute the claims but they're given no platform because modern "science" is really pretending there is false consensus to push an agenda, and that's easy to prove.
As for the newer refrigerants, consider that new systems must have leak sensors built-in to shut down the furnace in case of a refrigerant leak in the evaporator (inside the furnace output ducting) since a cracked heat exchanger + refrigerant leak can now burn your house down. R410/R22 didn't have that problem. And FYI, you can still get R22 20+ years later for prices that are somewhat high, but not nearly as high as a new system. My house is still running on an R22 system installed in 1987. Probably around a SEER 9 but even upgrading to a 21 SEER would probably never pay back to update just for the sake of updating.
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Ironically the last time my AC was replaced, I got one of the last models that used R22, and a spare tank of it. THAT is appreciating in value because R22 production was banned a few years back, so everyone else has to find reclaimed sources. Years in the future when production of new R410A is banned, it is likely to be the same situation, they'll reclaim it, and finally it will go up in price a lot but by then, what you buy today will have probably worn out already and need replaced again.
As for the newer refrigerants, consider that new systems must have leak sensors built-in to shut down the furnace in case of a refrigerant leak in the evaporator (inside the furnace output ducting) since a cracked heat exchanger + refrigerant leak can now burn your house down. R410/R22 didn't have that problem. And FYI, you can still get R22 20+ years later for prices that are somewhat high, but not nearly as high as a new system. My house is still running on an R22 system installed in 1987. Probably around a SEER 9 but even upgrading to a 21 SEER would probably never pay back to update just for the sake of updating.
Thank you!